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ID | Scenario | Rating |
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ROMA2 | Second Hand News | 8.00 |
290 | Last Train to Leningrad | 7.75 |
AP206 | Jungle Rats | 7.50 |
DTF-16 | Panther Cull | 7.50 |
AP211 | The Doomed and the Damned | 7.33 |
J237 | Commandos at Kaiapit | 7.25 |
170 | 11th Company Counterattack | 7.20 |
291 | Bridge Over the River Queen | 6.80 |
AR2 | Sheep in Wolf's Clothing | 6.71 |
AR4 | The Overlook | 6.57 |
ID | Scenario | Rating |
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A | The Guards Counterattack | 8.27 |
J207 | Unhorsed | 7.92 |
292 | Four Stars of Valor | 7.73 |
01 | Fighting Withdrawal | 7.65 |
J208 | Panzerpioniere! | 7.60 |
J245 | Factory Fodder | 7.54 |
S02 | War of the Rats | 7.45 |
DB185 | Pipkorn's Attempt | 7.36 |
290 | Last Train to Leningrad | 7.33 |
J212 | Shoulder to Shoulder | 7.20 |
ID | Scenario | Rating |
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HF CG I | Hatten in Flames | 8.42 |
S56 | In Pursuit of the French | 8.33 |
S45 | Contested Settlement | 8.30 |
32 | Subterranean Quarry | 8.25 |
ITR-6 | The Ceramic Factory | 8.08 |
AP157 | Trap by Mishap | 8.06 |
J200 | One Story Town | 8.05 |
DB130 | Tigers and Flames | 8.00 |
135 | Acts of Defiance | 7.98 |
141 | Action at Balberkamp | 7.92 |
Most played scenarios
ID | Scenario | Count |
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AR2 | Sheep in Wolf's Clothing | 5 |
O23 | Frank's Tanks | 5 |
AR4 | The Overlook | 5 |
O24 | Quickly Toward the Bridge! | 4 |
AR3 | Bricks in Flames | 4 |
AP193 | Hit It & Quit It | 4 |
295 | Death Box | 4 |
AP211 | The Doomed and the Damned | 4 |
ROMA2 | Second Hand News | 3 |
46 | Birds of Prey | 3 |
ID | Scenario | Count |
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295 | Death Box | 16 |
J241 | It's a Battlefield | 16 |
J244 | Bowden's Wood | 16 |
J207 | Unhorsed | 14 |
J212 | Shoulder to Shoulder | 13 |
291 | Bridge Over the River Queen | 12 |
290 | Last Train to Leningrad | 12 |
AP192 | Brush Off | 11 |
S01 | Retaking Vierville | 11 |
J242 | Courage of Cowan | 11 |
ID | Scenario | Count |
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S01 | Retaking Vierville | 287 |
S02 | War of the Rats | 221 |
A | The Guards Counterattack | 187 |
01 | Fighting Withdrawal | 172 |
T01 | Gavin Take | 142 |
S03 | Simple Equation | 128 |
126 | Commando Schenke | 123 |
105 | Going To Church | 118 |
S05 | Clearing Colleville | 115 |
S14 | 88s at Zon | 110 |
Latest News
Latest Content Additions
Updated daily. RefreshScenario | Action | When |
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It Crescendo (tr; It's Growing) | Hutch Modified the overview | 3h 39m 12s ago |
It Crescendo (tr; It's Growing) | Hutch Modified the Title | 3h 40m 21s ago |
It Crescendo (tr; It's Growing) | Hutch Modified the overview | 3h 41m 40s ago |
Défence Élastique (Elastic Defense) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 4h 1m 52s ago |
Défence Élastique (Elastic Defense) | Hutch Modified the overview | 4h 5m 17s ago |
Défence Élastique (Elastic Defense) | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | 4h 10m 7s ago |
Défence Élastique (Elastic Defense) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 4h 12m 55s ago |
Strangers in a Strange Land | Turuk Modified the gps location | 4h 20m 51s ago |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the overview | 4h 23m 30s ago |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 4h 29m 58s ago |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 4h 33m 38s ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 5h 44m 56s ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the overview | 5h 47m 12s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 6h 7m 47s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 6h 16m 45s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 16m 45s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 17m 27s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 17m 27s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 6h 19m 54s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 19m 54s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 19m 54s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 23m 6s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 23m 6s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 6h 25m 32s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 25m 32s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 6h 25m 32s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 25m 32s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 29m 53s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 6h 29m 54s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 29m 54s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 6h 29m 54s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | 6h 42m 8s ago |
Recon in Force | aokigaryou Linked the scenario to ROAR | 6h 49m 5s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the overview | 8h 13m 27s ago |
Italian Brothers | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 22h 38m 17s ago |
A New Kind of Foe | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 22h 39m 56s ago |
The Cossacks Are Coming | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 22h 41m 7s ago |
The Generalissimo's Own | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 22h 59m 40s ago |
In Time, All Will Fail | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 23h 1m 12s ago |
Batterie Du Port | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 23h 2m 25s ago |
Saito's Farewell Order | mtrodgers99 Added a playing | Yesterday |
Saito's Farewell Order | mtrodgers99 Added Errata | Yesterday |
Pipkorn's Attempt | Bongiovanni Uploaded a VASL file | Yesterday |
Over Open Sights | cub99 Added a playing | 1h 45m 13s ago |
Pipkorn's Attempt | Bongiovanni Linked the scenario to ROAR | Yesterday |
Sticks And Stones | Bongiovanni Linked the scenario to ROAR | 2h 21m 31s ago |
Bricks in Flames-an AR3 remake | johan.vrijdaghs@gmail.com Added a playing | Yesterday |
Les Chemins de Rome | Hutch Modified the gps location | 2h 49m 27s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | Yesterday |
In Front of the Storm | Turuk Modified the gps location | 3h 29m 22s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Highland Frank | Bongiovanni Uploaded a VASL file | 3h 30m 9s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
It Crescendo (tr; It's Growing) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 3h 38m 40s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
It Crescendo (tr; It's Growing) | Hutch Modified the overview | 3h 39m 12s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
It Crescendo (tr; It's Growing) | Hutch Modified the Title | 3h 40m 21s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
It Crescendo (tr; It's Growing) | Hutch Modified the overview | 3h 41m 40s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Défence Élastique (Elastic Defense) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 4h 1m 52s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Défence Élastique (Elastic Defense) | Hutch Modified the overview | 4h 5m 17s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Défence Élastique (Elastic Defense) | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | 4h 10m 7s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Défence Élastique (Elastic Defense) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 4h 12m 55s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Strangers in a Strange Land | Turuk Modified the gps location | 4h 20m 51s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the overview | 4h 23m 30s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 4h 29m 58s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 4h 33m 38s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 5h 44m 56s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the overview | 5h 47m 12s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | 6h 7m 47s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 6h 16m 45s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 16m 45s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 17m 27s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 17m 27s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the overview | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 6h 19m 54s ago |
Chaos in the Coconut Grove | peacmyer Rated the scenario | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 19m 54s ago |
Bridgehead on the Rhine | Minedog Added a playing | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 19m 54s ago |
Hamlet's Demise | usmcwo1 Added a playing | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 23m 6s ago |
Gabriel's Horn | usmcwo1 Added a playing | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 23m 6s ago |
Abandon Ship! | usmcwo1 Added a playing | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 6h 25m 32s ago |
Slavic Brotherhood | hoxson1 Modified the overview | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 25m 32s ago |
Embuscade au Sablon (Ambush at Sablon) | hoxson1 Modified the Theatre | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 6h 25m 32s ago |
Embuscade au Sablon (Ambush at Sablon) | hoxson1 Modified the location | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 25m 32s ago |
Second Hand News | Prairial Linked the scenario to ROAR | Yesterday |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 6h 29m 53s ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the overlays | 2 days ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 6h 29m 54s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Updated the Victory Conditions | 2 days ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | 6h 29m 54s ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the overlays | 2 days ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 6h 29m 54s ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Updated the Victory Conditions | 2 days ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | 6h 42m 8s ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 2 days ago |
Recon in Force | aokigaryou Linked the scenario to ROAR | 6h 49m 5s ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 2 days ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the overview | 8h 13m 27s ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 2 days ago |
Italian Brothers | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 22h 38m 17s ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the overlays | 2 days ago |
A New Kind of Foe | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 22h 39m 56s ago |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the overlays | 2 days ago |
The Cossacks Are Coming | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 22h 41m 7s ago |
A Long Way To Go | cub99 Added a playing | 2 days ago |
The Generalissimo's Own | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 22h 59m 40s ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | 2 days ago |
In Time, All Will Fail | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 23h 1m 12s ago |
Paper Army | cub99 Added a playing | 2 days ago |
Batterie Du Port | jgarlic79@gmail.com Added a playing | 23h 2m 25s ago |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 2 days ago |
Saito's Farewell Order | mtrodgers99 Added a playing | Yesterday |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 2 days ago |
Saito's Farewell Order | mtrodgers99 Added Errata | Yesterday |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | 2 days ago |
Pipkorn's Attempt | Bongiovanni Uploaded a VASL file | Yesterday |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 2 days ago |
Pipkorn's Attempt | Bongiovanni Linked the scenario to ROAR | Yesterday |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 2 days ago |
Bricks in Flames-an AR3 remake | johan.vrijdaghs@gmail.com Added a playing | Yesterday |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 2 days ago |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the misc. rules | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the unit counts | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Defender's AFVs | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the overview | Yesterday |
Chaos in the Coconut Grove | peacmyer Rated the scenario | Yesterday |
Bridgehead on the Rhine | Minedog Added a playing | Yesterday |
Hamlet's Demise | usmcwo1 Added a playing | Yesterday |
Gabriel's Horn | usmcwo1 Added a playing | Yesterday |
Abandon Ship! | usmcwo1 Added a playing | Yesterday |
Slavic Brotherhood | hoxson1 Modified the overview | Yesterday |
Embuscade au Sablon (Ambush at Sablon) | hoxson1 Modified the Theatre | Yesterday |
Embuscade au Sablon (Ambush at Sablon) | hoxson1 Modified the location | Yesterday |
Second Hand News | Prairial Linked the scenario to ROAR | Yesterday |
Quiproquo | Hutch Modified the overlays | 2 days ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Updated the Victory Conditions | 2 days ago |
Les Mamelons (tr: The Nipples) | Hutch Modified the overlays | 2 days ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Updated the Victory Conditions | 2 days ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 2 days ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 2 days ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 2 days ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the overlays | 2 days ago |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the overlays | 2 days ago |
A Long Way To Go | cub99 Added a playing | 2 days ago |
La Dernière Charge (tr: The Last Charge) | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | 2 days ago |
Paper Army | cub99 Added a playing | 2 days ago |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 2 days ago |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the Defender's Guns | 2 days ago |
Chasse A L'Ours (tr: Bear Hunt) | Hutch Modified the Unit Elements | 2 days ago |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 2 days ago |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the unit counts | 2 days ago |
Un Epineux Probleme (tr : A Thorny Problem) | Hutch Modified the Attacker's Guns | 2 days ago |
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March Madness Korean War pack available for download
The March Madness Korean War pack is available for download at a cost of $20 from the shop.8 scenarios, ranging from small to large all featuring the KW. Look out for an episode of IR focusing on this pack, shortly!
ROAR record importer
After too many requests from players, I've now added a way for you to import your playings from ROAR into the archive. The instructions can be found at the bottom of your My Page, but essentially requires you to copy and paste your playing records from your account page in ROAR into a spreadsheet, then from there into the input box.Games aren't removed from your account but duplicates won't be added (duplicates check player name, scenario and dates).
Please do carry on using ROAR if you choose to do so, but this is being offered to players who'd like to consolidate their records here.
Reports and statistics
I've added a replica of the roar balance report (based on archive plays) underneath reports -> balance, on the left hand menu and some statistics charts, too.Want to see how many games have been logged and when? Are we playing more now than we did 3 years ago? What about the year when the most scenarios were published? Or are games played with vasl more regularly than ftf?
All this and a little bit more on the statistics page (found on the left hand side under reports).
Map page and new search options
The Maps link on the left hand nav bar takes you to a maps page that provides the opportunity to search the maps via names and tags. The maps that don't have images will slowly get updated, and those who have admin rights can add tags to help scenario designers and players filter maps by a set of tags, such as Rural, City, Stream, etc.You can update your map collection, in order to search by maps owned on the advanced search, by ticking the boxes on this page which should automatically update your map collection. The button that is on this page takes all publications that you own and adds the maps that are listed on those into your collection.
As always, a big thanks to those who help populate this data!
Map data update
The way maps are stored under-the-hood has been changed. Previously maps were simply strings of text that were split into map_strings and added to the scenario. They weren't really unique map rows, which meant that there could be duplicates with similar names, and it wasn't really feasible to do nicer things with them, like attach images to them, or work out which publications they were from.This has changed now, and the data has been ported across to the new map objects. All that's missing is the publication->map data, ie, which publications have which maps!
For those that like to edit and update these things, it's now possible to enter the maps for each publication (by logging in and editing the publication page and adding the maps). If we can get a good set of this data we can do things like "show me scenarios that I own the maps for" and other module dependencies for scenarios.
I've not done the same for overlays, because it seems a bit more of an overhead, but in theory it would be possible, but maybe a bit too much effort.
Finally - you can now hover over the map values within the scenarios and publication pages (if the maps have been added to them yet) to see a map preview. If the map image isn't there yet, it might need updating, but the standard ones should all work - I think!