Second Thoughts WTO (id:#57789)
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See Also: Second Thoughts by Multi-Man Publishing
Designer: Mattias Rönnblom
Starter kit scenario?:    Deluxe scenario?:
 
Balance:
German (SS)American
51.428571428571%

Overview:

The first objective of Operation Nordwind, Hitler's last major offensive in the west, was to secure a path through the Low Vosges mountains to the Alsatian plains. One possible path ran through Wingen-sur-Moder. Kampfgruppe Wingen was tasked to seize the village. - - - - In "Second Thoughts" SS-Gebirgs-Jäger and a captured M8 HMC meet a tiny American infantry force defending Heidenneck outside Wingen. The Americans are ready to give up arms, but change their minds as they receive unexpected armored reinforcements, which enable them to counter-attack and retake Heidenneck and maybe even break through to the now German-held Wingen itself with the tanks.
Attacker: German (SS) (Kompanie 5, Bataillon I, SS-Gebirgsjäger-Regiment 12, SS-Gebirgs-Division 6 “Nord,” Kampfgruppe Wingen and Captured M8 HMC)
Defender: American (1271st Engineer Combat Battalion and Service Troops of 179th Infantry Regiment and Company B, 781st Tank Battalion and Company l, 276th Infantry Regiment, 70th Infantry Division, Task Force Herren)  
7 turns
    Players: 2     OBA: None     Night: No
Unit Counts:
Squads: A:7.0 D:13.0
AFVs: A:1
M8 HMC

AFVs: D:3
M4A3(76)W
M4A3 x 2

Guns: A:0 D:0

Victory Conditions:

Exit VP: Building Control VC: Area Control VC:
Unit Based VC: LOS Style VC: CVP Cap:
Misc Rules: GS. A: Infantry have WC. M8 crew is Inexperienced but suffers no use penalties
Overlays: St1 RR8
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Last Played:
DateReporterOpponentBal.ResultTimeComments
2026-07-03(D) Douglas Leslie vs Herbert Heyman American win

(VASL Log)		0.07 hrsInteresting concept. The Americans are the scenario defenders but, in reality, will be doing most of the attacking. Herbert seized the stone building beside the stream but didn't threaten any of the other possible multi-hex buildings. Instead, he concentrated most of his force beside the road leading to the bridges. The Americans were able to seize only building held by the Germans and held on at the end despite misplaying by allowing the Germans a chance to enter the building in force on the final turn.
2025-09-24(A) Eric Partizan Eric vs David Marsan German (SS) win
2023-02-07(A) Will Willow vs Jim Waterhouse American winGermans couldn't do anything right. Over in 4 turns.
2022-05-15(D) Doba Serge vs Pascal B. German (SS) win
2022-05-15(A) Pascal Boileau vs Serge Doba German (SS) winA very nice scenario. It was tense until the very last turn. In the beginning, Germans were severely challenged and the M8 HMC was recalled the turn after entering... At the end, the Americans were not in position to take back all the victory buildings and therefore they rushed their AFV toward the exit but German PF were unmerciful..
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Dougban Added a playing2026-07-03 22:01:12
Bongiovanni Added a playing2025-09-24 15:49:19
Michel Bongiovanni Added a playing2025-09-18 07:39:20
Michel Bongiovanni Added a playing2025-09-17 09:01:55
CWO_19 Added a playing2025-09-16 21:53:02
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120th Engineer Battalion near Wingen Sur Moder
 
Statistics:
Avg Rating: 7.04Votes: 28
Views: 13576
To-Play list count: 1
Estimated Play time: 4.3 hours
Recorded Games: 24
Archive recorded plays:
German (SS)14
American10
Drawn:0

ROAR Data: (as of today)
Second Thoughts [Confirmed]
[A] German 22
[D] American 24
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