Marders not Martyrs ETO (id:#59655)
Multi-Man Publishing (ASL Journal # 7 ID: J106)   [next]   [previous]
Ischerskaja, Russia 1942-09-10 ()
Designer: Ken Dunn
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Balance:
RussianGerman
64.444444444444%

Overview:

German anti-tank units had been recently finding that their ability to destroy Soviet armor had been compromised by a sudden increase in the numbers of tanks that were impervious to their anti-tank guns. Too many recent examples of martyred German soldiers trying to stand their ground against the upgraded Soviet tanks had convinced German authorities to make changes. In late June the 13th Panzer Division finally got an opportunity to refit their mobile Anti-Tank Battalion with the new Marder tank destroyer. This would allow them to finally stand up to the newer versions of the Soviet AFVs with which they were beginning to have to contend. And not a moment too soon; OKW had tasked Army Group A with the capture and exploitation of the vast oilfields near Grozny.
Attacker: Russian (151st Rifle Division/Russian Tank Corps)
Defender: German (1st Panzerjäger Abteilung, 13th Panzer Division and 11th Infantry Division)  
5.5 turns
    Players: 2     OBA: None     Night: No
Unit Counts:
Squads: A:10.0 D:5.0
AFVs: A:4
KV-1E x 4

AFVs: D:2
Marder I (f) x 2

Guns: A:0
50mm RM obr. 40
D:0

Victory Conditions:

Exit VP: Building Control VC: Area Control VC:
Unit Based VC: LOS Style VC: CVP Cap:
Misc Rules:
Overlays: NONE
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Last Played:
DateReporterOpponentBal.ResultTimeComments
2024-09-08(A) Vic Lauterbach vs JM Russian winThis small, fast-playing scenario was fun. Jim's clinic in combined arms defense lasted three turns. Hitting the HD Marders on the vJ4 hill and the 9-1 directed HMG in vM6L1 was very difficult. Then in Turn 4, it all went my way. One Marder broke then disabled its MA and was recalled. My immobilized KV-1E Shocked the other Marder; two 5 drs later it was a wreck. In turn 5, I easily got two KV-1Es and three MMC off for the immediate win. Jim: This one boiled down to keeping a Marder alive long enough to stop a third KV and help the HMG keep the Russian MMC broken and unable to exit. I couldn't do both that long enough. This one is fun but a bit dicey. The margin for error (or bad DRs) is small for both sides.
2024-01-13(D) Paolo Cariolato vs Guido Guerra German winI played this classic with Guido who has been playing for three years, his attack was not very coordinated, and he tried to force his way with brute force against the bulk of german defenders, it didn't went well for him. After he lost his third KV he rightly conceded. This scenario is pure chance, if the marders get the right TK roll it's game over in flash if they don't they can be obliterated by the mortar and if not my russian fire when they come at shooting distance. This is a dull scenario, There are better scenario to play.
2024-01-13(D) Ric Hammond vs Blair Belemy German win
2023-10-29(D) Darren Adam vs German winRussian conceded during Russian Turn 4 when he lost his last KV, with both Marders still in action A game of wild dice rolls - opening mortar fire resulted in German 9-1 becoming a Heroic 9-2...

Marders set up out of LOS of potential Russian mortar locations, and would not come out until the HMG had removed that threat (which it did early on). The HMG set up of top floor of building M7 to cover the large hill in case the mortar set up on it. Which it did. The HMG removed the mortar on turn one, allowing a Marder to get up on the center German hill and go Hull Down. Both Marders Intensive Fired every chance they got, and eventually took the KVs down without loss (although one Marder malfed its MA twice during the game, but repaired it both times). A Sniper took care of the Russian 9-1 leader early on. The 247 manning the HMG broke on Turn 3. The Heroic 9-2 then kicked them off the gun and took over it himself to stem the Russian hordes. And promptly rolled a 12...
2023-04-08(D) Jim Bishop vs Tony Gibson Russian winSo when I say I did not enjoy this, it is not a reflection of playing Tony. I enjoy playing Tony and from that perspective, it was an evening well spent.

The scenario however, is pretty unbalanced in my opinion. If the Marders set up on the hill, the Russian 50mm mortar can easily take out one in the first turn PFPh. With some fortune, the mortar could know them both out. After you abandon the hill, there are just too many Russians and too much time. Once the Marders lose APCR, the TK chances against the KVs become dicey and 17 VP off isn't that hard. I think a solid Russian player wins this 70% of the time.
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Marder 1, a German 75mm AT gun mounted on a French hull.
 
Statistics:
Avg Rating: 6.43Votes: 51
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Estimated Play time: 3.2 hours
Recorded Games: 46
Archive recorded plays:
Russian29
German16
Drawn:1

ROAR Data: (as of today)
Marders Not Martyrs
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[A] German 74
[D] Russian 90
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