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Second Thoughts WTO (id:#57789)
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See Also: Second Thoughts by Multi-Man Publishing
Wingen-sur-Moder, France 1945-01-04 (13 others)
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BK 2.3: Bicske Brawl (Coastal Fortress)
BoF11: Second Thoughts (Best of Friends)
Designer: Mattias Rönnblom
Starter kit scenario?:    Deluxe scenario?:
 
Balance:
German (SS)American
54.098360655738%

Overview:

The first objective of Operation Nordwind, Hitler's last major offensive in the west, was to secure a path through the Low Vosges mountains to the Alsatian plains. One possible path ran through Wingen-sur-Moder. Kampfgruppe Wingen was tasked to seize the village. - - - - In "Second Thoughts" SS-Gebirgs-Jäger and a captured M8 HMC meet a tiny American infantry force defending Heidenneck outside Wingen. The Americans are ready to give up arms, but change their minds as they receive unexpected armored reinforcements, which enable them to counter-attack and retake Heidenneck and maybe even break through to the now German-held Wingen itself with the tanks.
Attacker: German (SS) (Kompanie 5, Bataillon I, SS-Gebirgsjäger-Regiment 12, SS-Gebirgs-Division 6 “Nord,” Kampfgruppe Wingen and Captured M8 HMC)
Defender: American (1271st Engineer Combat Battalion and Service Troops of 179th Infantry Regiment and Company B, 781st Tank Battalion and Company l, 276th Infantry Regiment, 70th Infantry Division, Task Force Herren)  
7 turns
    Players: 2     OBA: None     Night: No
Unit Counts:
Squads: A:7.0 D:13.0
AFVs: A:1
M8 HMC

AFVs: D:3
M4A3(76)W
M4A3 x 2

Guns: A:0 D:0

Victory Conditions:

Exit VP: Building Control VC: Area Control VC:
Unit Based VC: LOS Style VC: CVP Cap:
Misc Rules: GS. A: Infantry have WC. M8 crew is Inexperienced but suffers no use penalties
Map Board(s):
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ASL 12 - Armies of Oblivion49
ASL 12 - Armies of Oblivion (2nd Edition)49
Overlays: St1 RR8
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DateReporterOpponentBal.ResultTimeComments
2023-02-07(A) Will Willow vs Jim Waterhouse American winGermans couldn't do anything right. Over in 4 turns.
2022-05-15(A) Pascal Boileau vs Serge Doba German (SS) winA very nice scenario. It was tense until the very last turn. In the beginning, Germans were severely challenged and the M8 HMC was recalled the turn after entering... At the end, the Americans were not in position to take back all the victory buildings and therefore they rushed their AFV toward the exit but German PF were unmerciful..
2022-05-15(D) Doba Serge vs Pascal B. German (SS) win
2018-03-07(D) Richard Carter vs Bruce Steed German (SS) winInteresting scenario. I tried to make a run for it with some tanks and it didn't work out. He was able to hold on to one building in the end. Though I think I could have made a better final push.
2015-06-20(D) Richard Jenulis vs Lyle Fisher American winBC Human Wave 2015
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Augie Linked the scenario to ROAR2024-09-28 14:27:48
Turuk Uploaded a VASL file2024-07-08 19:11:16
wwillow Added a playing2023-02-07 19:52:01
Bongiovanni Added a playing2023-01-20 11:58:54
lechiquier94 Added a playing2022-05-15 20:17:58
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120th Engineer Battalion near Wingen Sur Moder (Build_road_Wingen.jpg)ImageKing Billy1516
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FrF8 Second Thoughts (FrF8.png)Map ImageHoulie1575
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Statistics:
Avg Rating: 7.23Votes: 22
Views: 11637
To-Play list count: 1
Estimated Play time: 4.3 hours
Recorded Games: 17
Archive recorded plays:
German (SS)11
American6
Drawn:0

ROAR Data: (as of today)
Second Thoughts [Confirmed]
[A] American 22
[D] German 22
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